WHY THERE CAN BE NO RECONCILIATION WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

Posted: July 7, 2014 in HOT TOPICS, Uncategorized
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“Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.” (Ephesians 5:11)

 

There has been a great deal of discussion and clammer within the Christian community as it relates to the recent meeting with Pope Francis and Charismatic leader Kenneth Copeland and evangelical leader James Robison. Both men desiring to fulfill their vision of bridging both the evangelical church with the Roman Catholic church. Kenneth Copeland stated his defense of meeting and supporting the Pope’s vision of unity between the two factions by suggesting this is the will of Christ for these last days, where a unified body of Christ can be seen, both in the Catholic church, as well as the evangelical church. James Robison went further by saying, “This is something God has done. God wants his arms around the world. And he wants Christians to put his arms around the world by working together.” (source)

To be clear, what Copeland and Robison is attempting to do is not only wrong, it is unscriptural (as outlined in Ephesians 5:11). What Mr. Copeland and others are attempting to do is bridge one ideology with another, one theological teaching (Christ by faith alone) and the teaching of Catholicism, which is a religion based on merit, i.e., works. There can be no such union, and to try to bring about such a union rips at the core of the message of the cross, which is by itself, the only means to the hope of man.

When someone attempts to bridge light with darkness (in this case Catholicism) what they are saying is the cross is not enough, but to compromise their moral center, they attempt to undermine the written word of God, the establishment of the cross by faith alone, with a religion which is bound in ritual and form an mix the two, the result is a form of Christianity, but saves no one. It then becomes a false religion, a false hope and a false way which leads to spiritual death.

Catholicism has not changed its strips since its early formation. It still claims that there is no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church, it still claims that the Pope is the final authority, even above the word of God. It still claims the Pope is the substitute for Christ. It still claims that one cannot be “born again” into Christ unless the church deems the individual as being saved. It still believes that all faiths, including Protestants, are in rebellion and must be subjected to the Catholic church. It still believes it is impossible that anyone can have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ without the involvement of the Catholic church. These are still the teachings and commandments the Catholic church deems as regulatory and not subject for discussion.

What Mr. Copeland and others are sadly doing is proving that in the last days, men, leaving the foundation of the truth, will begin to give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. To be clear, the teachings of the Roman Catholic church are in fact doctrines of devils. It has nothing to do with Christ and him crucified. Kenneth Copeland and James Robison have become seduced by the spirit of antichrist, and unless they repent, they will stand in judgment for accepting what the apostle warned us not to accept – another gospel. There can be NO reconciliation with the Catholic Church, because to do so is to bring about another gospel, another Christ, another way.

Allow me to leave you with Paul’s warning of this; “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)

Christopher

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Comments
  1. robhar says:

    This truth just scratches the surface concerning all that is wrong, ie downright pagan, with the catholic church. If one cares to dig deeper, catholicism and much of protestantism is saturated with many things that YHVH called an abomination. The teachings, symbolism, rituals and other “traditions of men” rank right up there with Baal worship and rabbinic Judaism.

  2. Hi. I appreciate your concerns, but it seems to me you have some misunderstandings about what Catholics believe. Catholics affirm salvation by the grace of Christ alone, through faith, just as strongly and certainly as Protestants. The dispute over justification during the Reformation was about the mode of justification, not about the essential truth of it: that it is entirely, and only, by the grace of God, through the work of Christ on the cross. The Catholic Church does not teach that anything we do, or by our own “merit,” can save us.

    In fact — the Church does not claim that there is “no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church.” The grace of our merciful God cannot be constrained. The Church does not teach that the pope is “above the word of God” or is a “substitute for Christ.” There is no teaching that “no one can have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ without the involvement of the Catholic Church” — and I’m not even sure where most of these ideas come from.

    I would be glad to show you official teachings of the Catholic Church that demonstrate what I am saying. I think your hostility is misplaced — and, even if there is not yet full reconciliation, the least we could strive for is a lessening of such hostility and a striving to love each other as Christians as our Lord implores.

    The peace of the Lord be with you!

    • That’s a lie. The Pope just a few days ago repeated his statement that salvation CANNOT come outside the RCC, nor can it come by faith alone. I have his exact quote.

    • Here is the Pope’s own statement just a few days ago:

      “The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire ‘which was prepared for the devil and his angels’ unless before death they are joined with Her…

      No one, let his alms giving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Jesus Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

      You obviously do not know a whole lot of the RCC.

      • Hi again. Where did you find this quote? And are you aware which pope said this? This was not “repeated just a few days ago”; it’s a quote from Pope Eugene IV in the year 1441 — more than thirty years before any Protestant ever breathed.

        It’s very true that the Church teaches — and has always taught (first by Cyprian of Carthage in the early 200s — that “there is no salvation outside the Catholic (i.e. Universal) Church.” But not then and not in the quote you’ve given above is “the Universal Church” identified as “the Roman Catholic Church” (which technically is not even a thing).

        The Church is the Body of Christ (Romans 12:4-5, Colossians 1:18, 1 Corinthians 12:27) and Christians, through salvation, become a part of it (1 Corinthians 12:13). So quite literally — if one is not a member of the Church of Christ, one is separated from salvation.

        This is the teaching of the Catholic Church concerning, in particular, Protestants:

        “[All] men who believe in Christ and have been truly baptized are in communion with the Catholic Church even though this communion is imperfect. The differences that exist in varying degrees between them and the Catholic Church — whether in doctrine and sometimes in discipline, or concerning the structure of the Church — do indeed create many obstacles, sometimes serious ones, to full ecclesiastical communion. … But even in spite of them it remains true that all who have been justified by faith and been baptized are members of Christ’s body, and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church.

        “Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ.”

        “The brethren divided from us also use many liturgical actions of the Christian religion. These most certainly can truly engender a life of grace in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community. These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation.

        “It follows that the separated Churches and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.

        (Unitatis Redintegratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Second Vatican Council [1965], 3)

        His Peace be with you!

  3. Did you even read the article? The quote you give is correctly ascribed here to Pope Eugene IV in 1441.

    • Go back and read the very words of Pope Francis, he makes it very clear that salvation outside the Roman Catholic church is not possible. This is a Catholic belief. The Catechism, the confirmation process, the confessional, the eucherist, these are false teachings of works, not faith alone.

      • Pope Francis said that we cannot “save ourselves” alone; we can only be saved through loving God and loving our brothers, as members of Christ. This is entirely consistent with Scripture. Did he say, “the Roman Catholic Church”? No, he said “the Church” — that is, the one and only Body of Christ. Again, what I quoted you above is the official teaching of the Catholic Church.

        And again, the Catholic Church teaches that we are saved by the grace of Christ alone through faith in Him. The Sacraments are “works” He does for us, the outpouring to us of His work on the cross, and gifts of His grace, not “works” we must do for Him. I do not think you understand what you are talking about.

        May the love and peace of our Lord be with you — especially His love. There is no warrant to be filled with such hostility toward fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

      • There can be no common ground between us because as much as you try to twist your teachings to conform them to Christ, it is still a religion of works. Yes or no, do you pray to Mary?

      • We do ask our Lord’s mother to pray for us, along with all the rest of our brothers and sisters in Christ. And I hope that you’ll pray for us, too.

        Our common ground is Jesus Christ and Him crucified. As much as YOU try to twist our teachings to deny that we share that common bond, the truth of His love and mercy will always prevail over hate and lies. I am so pleased and gratified that so many other Christians are rediscovering that common ground and common heritage — our common faith, our common Lord, and our common love for Him — and I hope and pray, as does our Lord, that we all may be one again, His one, spotless Bride. I hope and pray for you, too, that in working at such cross purposes against Him, you will not miss the Bridegroom when He comes for her.

        The peace of the Lord be with you.

      • Show me in scripture where a believer is told to pray to the dead? I pray you leave that mess you are in, for if you continue in that darkness, the further you will come to spiritual destruction. We are to pray to the Father because of Christ, the work of Christ on the cross gives us access directly to God, not thru Mary, Mary is dead, her spirit is with the Father, she cannot no more hear you than the man in the moon. Nor was she a virgin the rest of her life, she had many other children. Again, you cannot defuse this anymore than any other cult. I’ve been to the Catholic mass, I’ve studied this religion and I have my facts correct.

      • I thank you kindly for your prayers. 🙂 Show me in Scripture where it says anyone who is in Christ, through whom is resurrection and eternal life, is “dead” and cut off from the rest of the Body of Christ. God is the God of the living, not the dead (Matt 22:32). We know that our brothers and sisters in heaven are ever interceding us: we see in John’s Revelation the Twenty-Four Elders — an image of the Patriarchs and Apostles — “[falling] down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints” — that is, the prayers of the Church on earth.

        Yes! The work of Christ gives us access directly to God the Father. It is because of Him that we can dare to pray, as He taught us, “Our Father, who art in Heaven…” There is no necessity of praying “through” anybody else to get to Him.

        I’m sorry, but you don’t have your “facts” correct. When you view Christ’s Church through eyes of hate, your vision is bound to be clouded. And I do sincerely pray for you. One of the chief characteristics of a “cult,” as most people understand that word, is of an exclusive sect that denies association or communion with every other group. I’m afraid that description fits your position better than mine.

        I pray that the light of His truth will dawn on you.

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