HILLSONG UPDATE: NOW THE TRUTH IS FINALLY REVEALED

Posted: August 9, 2015 in HOT TOPICS
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For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all.” (Luke 8:17)

In the past week I wrote up an article concerning the problems occurring over at Hillsong, why, not to mention among other things besides using secular music as a means to bring young people to worship, but equally having an openly gay man serving as worship leader and involved in the choir. (article) Equally, I addressed Hillsong Pastor Brian Houston’s attempt to silence the rising tide of critics which he (Houston) refuted that such a person was not involved in ministry. (source)

Yet throughout this ordeal one person had been mysteriously absent from the media news which was making the rounds – Josh Canfield. But that ended yesterday when, as expected, Mr. Canfield and his partner (Reed) released a joint statement refuting Pastor Houston’s denial that there was not any openly gay men serving in the role of leadership. Here is the entire statement which Mr. Canfield posted on his Twitter account (link provided):

To our friends…


We’re writing this post in response to so many of you who have kindly reached out. You’ve been wondering why we have been getting so many hateful comments on all of our social media in the past week, in which some of you have been tagged or engaged. The drama that is unfolding at the moment all revolves around the fact that we have been heavily involved in our church, Hillsong NYC. Josh has been with Hillsong for eight years in a variety of ways: choir director, vocal director, and worship team. I’ve been there since the beginning of our relationship, over three years ago, and eventually began singing in the choir and opening my apartment as the gathering place for a connect group for Hillsong members in the Broadway and theatrical communities. We have been open and forthright about our relationship from the get-go. Due to our openness and very public appearance together on CBC’s “Survivor”, we have been in conversation with Hillsong NYC’s lead pastors regarding the church’s non-LGBT affirming stance. Hillsong has many campuses around the world, many in places where gay marriage is now legal, so this has been an ongoing dialogue trying to figure out how and where we, as part of the LGBT community, fit in. As a church family, we have been wading through these uncharted waters of shifting culture and social change. Several days ago some faceless, end-of-days blogger decided to attack us and our church for allowing us to serve when we are “unrepentantly embracing [our] sin” as homosexuals. Sadly, yet unsurprisingly, most super-conservative news sources picked it up and ran with it — giving this man’s voice worldwide amplification it never should have had. Not to mention it worked up Christian communities around the world, as many look to our church as a model of modern Christianity to be emulated. (We’ve never been harassed in so many foreign languages before … and we live in NYC!) This has now forced our church to globally reaffirm their hard stance as a non-LGBT-affirming institution and disallow any gays from being in a position of leadership within the church. It’s been frustrating and a bit crushing that one crazy person could interfere so easily with the healthy and steady dialogue we’ve been having, but in a new world of social media and instant exposure, we are left unsurprised. Thankfully we are led by pastors who are grace-filled and committed to continuing to try to discern God’s will on this matter. All this being said, many of you ask: “why are you staying somewhere that doesn’t fully accept you?” This leaves us with a tough decision. If we, as gays, pack up and leave every church we feel less than welcomed in or where we feel spiritual resistance, how will there ever be growth? The flip side of this is: why would we, as part of the gay community who have been primarily outcast for all our lives, willingly subject ourselves to more marginalization? It’s been a lot to personally work though. Many try to discredit biblical scholars and laymen alike who have shifted their stance from non-affirming to LGBT-affirming by saying “the only reason they have changed their mind is because they know a gay person”. This only confirms to us that personal relationships are transformative. This isn’t difficult to accept after one looks at this through the lens of personal relationship being a foundational tenet of the Christian faith. After we inadvertently and unintentionally became public representatives for gay Christianity, we feel like we have been called and have a responsibility to continue to stand authentically in our truth — especially within the church family that we call home, Hillsong NYC — we are seeking the Lord, we are Christian, we are gay, and this is our journey.

We thank you for your concern, your prayers, and your support. Big Smiles and 110% …

Reed and Josh

-end-  (source)

So there we have it, yet another fact proving what many of us have been stating from day one, that something is wrong at Hillsong. Why is this important? Because there is a rising chorus of opposing figures rising up who have another agenda, and that agenda is to force the church to accept, even if violently thru social/political pressure, something which God reminds us in his word we cannot accept – homosexuality.

The only hope for the homosexual is the same for the drunkard, the prostitute, the adulterer, or the liar, which is the cross.

Christopher

christopher152@gmail.com

Comments
  1. Eliza says:

    Notice that Josh Canfield said they were standing authentically in their truth, I am sure he speaks for all homosexuals who want to be integrated into the visible church when he wrote that. Homosexuals don’t stand in God’s truth which is the Word of God and they attack those who do so. Homosexuals who try to integrate into the visible church are a perfect example of antichrists, they are against Jesus Christ, His people, His Word because they refuse to repent of their sin. God bless us.

    • Sam says:

      (sigh). Yet another Christian who cannot get it right! Sister, if you are going to mention antichrist, please, please get it right! The information has been out there for a very long time. The word ‘anitchrist’ DOES NOT MEAN ‘against Christ.’ It means INSTEAD OF, SUPPLANTING, CHRIST. This is the diabolical lie that many will believe; they will trust their soul (literally) and their ability to live to the ANTICHRIST. That is a PERSON, who is literally evil itself, and Satan himself or his ‘chosen one’ who will IMITATE and USURP the actual POSITION of Christ, some time before Jesus the true Christ returns to the world. The preparation of the false church, filled with unbelievers and misled, ignorant, or deceived ‘Christians’ (but not the truly born-again by the Spirit of God) will literally, in the future, serve and worship this false Christ. That is the true meaning of the word ‘antiChrist’ and it is the true reason that the apostate church is being feverishly built by Satan and his many agents, (and, incidentally, why more and more evil and wickedness is increasing in the world) — to prepare himself a ‘bride,’ (kind of like, Zombie Apocalypse), for his FAKE ‘lord,’ before the true LORD returns for His chosen, loyal, and loving bride.

      • Eliza says:

        These false teachers who invent ways to oppose the truth and oppose Jesus Christ are antichrists because they do oppose Him even if they are put in place of Him, (any teaching that supplants the Word of God is against Christ even though it is put in the place of the truth).

        Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:18-22

        The antichrists within and without the visible church are preparing the way for the Antichrist by accelerating the falling away and in rapid increase in lawlessness that we see occurring all around us. God bless us.

        https://holdingforthhisword.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/lawlessness/

      • Eliza, you are 100% correct. Don’t answer a fool.

      • Anonymous says:

        Zombie Apocalypse!!!!!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 before you try to discern the truth, make sure you know the truth! Take the stick out your own eye! smh

    • Anonymous says:

      The above statement is a fearful, paranoid, judgmental, self-righteous, un-loving, and un-Christ-like rant. Eliza, YOU are the one who simon the attack. Use Scripture to improve your own faith, and allow others to do their own searching, reflection, and prayer. Work on yourself, don’t malign others.

      • It’s not fearful at all, when you understand the political/religious agenda the gay militants truly desire. Eliza is 100% correct in her comment, that the agenda of this movement is not to just change and reshape the long held model of traditional marriage, but to also change the very fabric of Christianity itself. Homosexuality is a perverse, evil and wicked behavior, and their attempt to change what is right and normal is the agenda Satan has planned against the church. It’s another attempt to silence the church as he has done in the U.K. as well as Canada, where it is now illegal to preach from the pulpit that homosexuality is sin and will damn the soul to hell for eternity. But if you read your bible you’d know that. Even China, where I spend most of my time working and living (I am a missionary to China) even the Chinese actively suppresses homosexual activists, for even they know this lifestyle is twisted and harmful to any society. Know your facts.

      • Eliza says:

        Speaking the truth about those who oppose the truth warns others to cling to the truth and turn away from error for the safety and salvation of their souls. Is it loving to allow the lost to continue on their way to hell without warning? Is it loving to allow the unrighteous to lie about Christ and His Bride the church and not speak the truth? My dear one, you need to study the Scriptures to make you a servant of Christ for His honor and glory. God bless you.

      • Anonymous says:

        obviously you dont know God or his truth! sad sad world!

    • Anonymous says:

      Gods” word is clear and we know that and we obey it!. Not under discussion .

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes i did take notice of that and i agree.

  2. Tammy says:

    Sadly as they are thrown directly into hell they will wonder how and why or maybe not. Standing before the Lord our God who is pure Holiness will do all the work without a word being said.

    When they stand in front of Him and the Glory of Him shines upon their sin, their going to see themselves as they truly are and recognize they need to just go jump into hell themselves because it is not an easy thing to stand before the Lord our God in our filthy world sin stained nakedness.

    Their acceptance by a church who has obviously left the truth behind, in no way is a ringing endorsement from the Father. What a mess!

    • Sam says:

      Just before they are thrown directly into Hell, they will throw a glance in your direction, letting you know they will remember you for what you did. Or didn’t do.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Jesus said “Repent of your sins and be saved”. If you do not pick up your cross and follow me you are not worthy of me. If you do not leave your father; mother; lover ect. you are not fit for the Kingdom. Repent is the key word.

    • Sam says:

      Hi Anonymous; please can you provide the reference to these words of Christ? thanks.

    • almer says:

      When will you repent? Repent and then doing it again and again. Men natural sinners individually, we fought on what we believe is right will do every way to make it right though we’re probably wrong .I’m with you sister Eliza may God’s blessings be showered upon us and mercy us as well cause all sinners we are

  4. smooothlegs says:

    EVERY DAY
    I SEE GOD MOVING SEPARATION tares from wheat

  5. clinton alexander says:

    i agree brother christopher with you

  6. Heather says:

    Wow. So much hate from people who are supposed to serve a loving God. I sure hope none of you are on your second marriage or eat shellfish or lie or judge others. Oh, wait….

    • Sam says:

      uh. what’s wrong with shellfish >.< I like them (sometimes).

    • Eliza says:

      Satan is subtle to shout hate when the truth is proclaimed. All sinners, no matter their sin, whatever it may be whether sexual in nature or not, are commanded by Jesus Christ to repent and believe the gospel. To do otherwise ensures eternal damnation. If you are supporting sinners and not giving them the truth and urging them to repent and believe in Jesus Christ, then you are supporting the work of the devil. He is a liar and has always opposed God’s truth, the Bible, and his antichrist’s who pervert the truth of God’s Word are always busy spreading lies leading the lost to eternal damnation in fiery hell. God bless you.

      • Anonymous says:

        Amennn sister Praise the Lord for he is truthful and good!

      • Bill Cribbs says:

        Sis. Eliza, be not weary in well-doing. In these last days, those who stand for the truth will be maligned, vilified, and even threatened in some cases. As people believe a lie willingly, their consciences will become seared as with a hot iron. They will no longer discern between good and evil, confusing the two. They will have become reprobate and irrecoverable. Look for those whom the Father is drawing. Look for those who are hungry for the holiness of God. He will give you a bounty of harvest.

      • Eliza says:

        Praise God, thank you for your encouragement. God bless us.

      • John says:

        Sister Eliza stand firm in what you believe. You are right! This compromising of scriptures in the name of love has distroy the power of true beluevers today. Christians are now made to be guilty for dissociating themselves from pulluted lifestyle. If we love we will rebuke in humilty, pure love and in truth of the scriptures. And that is exactly what you are doing. Don’t feel bad and i encourage you to stand. Don’t deel guilt of nothing. You said the truth any thing or any one against the word of truth is anti -Christ! Bestrong Sister. God bless you and may He grant you more grace to contend for the faith in our Lord Jesus. Yes we must love but we should stand firm to pull them out of the fire of hell. We must love but not compromise. You are right!! God bless you.

      • Eliza says:

        Thank you for your encouragement dear brother. God bless you also.

  7. sruss745 says:

    We have to stand by the Word of God….It’s not hate to say that gay people are in sin. It’s true love to tell someone when they are going the wrong way. That they have been deceived and tricked by an enemy who wants their soul in hell. It is a hard thing to tell someone what they don’t want to hear and what you’d rather not have to say, but when it’s the truth then it becomes paramount to tell.
    If we stand idly by and see someone heading where the bridge is out, do we just wish them a happy trip????

  8. Sam says:

    Unfortunately although you are correct in your teaching, your dogmatic repetition of ‘the cross, the cross’ doesn’t help the sinner! What do the words ‘the cross’ mean to the sinner? Nothing. As Christians we need to ask the Holy Spirit to lead our spirit and our words to touch the hearts, minds, spirits and souls of unbelievers effectively, so that they will “….repent and believe in THE CROSS.” Is that correct? Also, you may have written the blog article that mentioned ‘two openly gay men’ in leadership, apparently, at Hillsong. But your article is not referenced. This is a false accusation!

    • Anonymous says:

      Sam i see you arguing and bickering about the word of God even saying Christians need to do this or need to do that, but are you even a faithful believer yourself???? I question people like you! And this is coming from a lesbian herself! These people are encouraging us to follow God, they are showing us to walk closer to God that us Lesbians and Gays may 1 day see heaven! You on the other hand are bashing Gods people, you are contradicting yourself!

    • clinton alexander says:

      sam u are wrong without the cross there is no salvation, we are not talking about the wood part of the cross, we are talking about what the cross resembles, what Jesus did on the cross, the truth is this only way for salvation is Jesus and what he did on the cross, and the two said the are in a relationship and they deny the pastor when he said it was not true, so the pastor of hillsong is lying when both men admit it, and also the bible is clear on all sin the word effiminate means homesexual i kjv, God says they will not enter the kingdom of God

  9. Anonymous says:

    Well Mr Canfield ,you say that you and your boyfriend Reed are christian , I may ask you then , if you are christian , why are you living a lifestyle which is defiant to the Word of God , homosexuality is very strongly condemned in the Word of God (Romans ch.1) and many other verses , if you knew the Word of God , which you clearly do not, or if you do , then you are ignoring the fact that God condemns homosexuality. You say that you are christian , but let me tell you right now that you are NOT christian if you live this sick , demonic filthy lifestyle, the bible says that if any one who calls themselves a brother ( or sister) in the Lord and are living an immoral life then we are to dissasociate ourselves from you and not fellowship with or even eat with you , this would mean to excommunicate you from any form of fellowship ,including the church. you are decieved if you think that our holy God in any way approves you immorality. you are living a life of lies and deception and if you think that you can continue this filthy lifestyle and have eternal life and be a part of the Kingdom of God , then you are in big trouble indeed. You need to come before God in sincere repentance and seek His forgiveness and deliverance , if you do no, then you are condemned with the world to an eternity, of separation from God and to suffer for eternity in the fires of eternal HELL and damnation.

    • Gordon says:

      I understand from what you have written that you either practice celibacy or only have sexual relations to have children. In that case, congratulations, you are following the precepts of the Catholic Church. If not, and you practice sex for pleasure (fornicate) even if occasionally, or masturbate, you can give that same speech to yourself as you would be commiting the same sin as gay couples who practice sex. Do not throw a stone to others if you are not free of sin yourself. By the way, do you know if this gay couple practice sex at all? Maybe they don’t but you take for granted that all gay couples do. You misunderstand being homosexual for being a sinner. Only those who have sex sin. Let me tell you something, not all gay couples practice sex. There are many Catholic gays that don’t do it because they are fighting to serve God. I know some cases and I think that’s admirable because they are an example of sacrifice. And the Church is particularly proud og them. Think to yourself, are you an example of sacrifice? I truly hope so too.

  10. Jo says:

    Not sure if anyone else noticed this but he says in his letter, “Josh has been with Hillsong for eight years in a variety of ways: choir director, vocal director, and worship team.” Hissing has not been in New York that long. I doubt the authenticity and/or accuracy of this statement.

  11. There’s no music that has blessed my soul like hillsong music so I believe the holy spirit is moving through the music to touch soul. Let’s be careful of judgement.

    • clinton alexander says:

      sorry to tell u but ur wrong, we can judge peoples actions, and brother christopher is right

      • I think correction is better of than to judge. I’m not against checking his
        actions or activities whether is inline with the words of God. Then call to other if necessary.

      • clinton alexander says:

        agreed eliza

      • Gordon says:

        Christ said no man has the right to judge others. Only God can judge. All those who judge are only following satan’s commands without realising. What Christ asked us to do was to show love for one another, fullstop. And the only thing we can do is to pray for the Lord to enlight the way of those who take the wrong path, not judge them or say things like they don’t know the truth. The only one that knows the truth is God and a person that thinks that knows the truth or the right path is comparing him or herself to the Lord, which is the biggest sin.

      • Clinton says:

        Wrong Gordon

  12. Eliza says:

    That is what judgment is, we compare all to the standard of Scripture, and yes we do try to lovingly correct. However, so many are unwilling to accept biblical correction because they are filled with pride and vanity. May God bless us to always compare all things to the Scriptures; to hold fast what is good and to abstain from every form of evil.

    • Gordon says:

      Roman Catholics never take the scriptures literally (only protestant churches do). Only a priest is entitled to translate that message. I belong to a Catholic Conciliar Semminary so you can take my word on this. I know some of you think you are doing the right thing by saying who is good and who is not but arguing and fighting is never the right thing to do to the eyes of God. Only pray for one another, and remember that every single person is created by God and no one shall repent from being the way he or she is. The church embraces all, heterosexuals or gays (To those who still argue just check the Vatican website sometime to learn about the mission of the Catholic Church). What the Church says is that the only sex that is good to the eyes of God is the one made for reproductive purposes. In this particular case we are talking about, if you are gay but practice celibacy you are more than welcome to participate in the Church of Christ. But if you practice sex, whether you are gay or straight, for the purpose of pleasure, it is considered wrong and we must all pray that those who practice it find the right way and focus on healthier habits. It is as simple as that. Everyone in our hearts knows what is right and what is wrong as we are all guided by the Holy Spirit. Don’t try to take the Lord’s place, just pray quietly for those who sin to open their hearts and be able to let the Holy Spirit in. The secret is feeling love and pity not judging others and not being arrogant. Just love and pray. God bless.

      • Eliza says:

        Jesus Christ made it clear that we love Him when we obey His Word. Where do we find His Word? It is found only in the Bible. The Catholic Church teaches many things contrary to the Bible. The many statements that you made are contrary to the Bible; to what Jesus Christ actually said to His church. If we follow a way that contradicts and contravenes the Holy Scripture, the Bible, then we are on a way that leads to destruction and not to eternal life. May Christ in His mercy open your eyes to the truth and bring you to repent of your unbelief and rebellion against Him.

      • Clinton says:

        Agreed Eliza

  13. clinton alexander says:

    kingdom vessel u misinterpret scripture

  14. omega says:

    You make my heart hurt and make me wonder how people can ever wake up.

  15. pilgrim says:

    It makes my heart sad to see some here in this blog being so argumentative. Please let me explain,
    What use is there to argue with someone who does not even understand? Can a dead man reason?
    can a dead man hear? can a dead man see? ..well you get the drift. Those who are spiritually dead cannot see UNLESS.. the HOLY SPIRIT makes them alive to see their spiritual condition, then they can see that they ARE INDEED BLIND,NAKED AND WRETCHED!
    This is the Lord’s doing, and we need to pray for those who are in this most pitiful state and have compassion on them as our Lord did, Now, we hold forth the light of the WORD OF TRUTH, the HOLY SCRIPTURES that are able TO MAKE US WISE UNTO SALVATION. It IS GOD who saves
    and we can be used of Him . only when we humble ourselves, remembering from whence we came
    redeemed by the blood of THE HOLY LAMB OF GOD, EACH ONE OF US A HELL DESERVING SINNER,NO BETTER THAN THE CHIEF OF SINNER!, for even Paul called himself the chief of sinners,,,, I believe he really understood the sinfulness of sin PARAMOUNTLY HIS OWN.

    Where do wars and fights come from amongst you, are they NOT from your desires to have? and because you don not get what you want you fight and war amongst yourselves?
    Dear brothers and sisters who are born again of the SPIRIT OF GOD,IF indeed you are born again of the SPIRIT OF GOD,do not allow yourself to be led astray by useless wrangling. Hold FAST to God resist the devil and he will flee. Jesus said ” Ye are the salt ,of this world, yet if the salt loses it’s saltiness ,then it is then only good to be thrown out and be TRAMPLED UNDERFOOT BY MEN”

    Do you understand the spiritual ramifications of this? ..

    The practicing homosexual needs not our approval,it is a sin just as grievous to THE ALMIGHTY as those who practice these things GALATIONS 5;19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery,fornication,uncleanness,lasciviousness,idolatry,witchcraft,haterd,variance,emulations,wrath,strife,seditions,heresies,envyings,murders,drunkeness,revellings,andsuch like; of the which I TELL YOU BEFORE,AS I HAVE ALSO TOLD YOU IN TIME PAST, THAT THEY WHICH DO SUCH THINGS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

    But the fruit of the SPIRITIS, love ,joy,peace,longsuffering( which literally means to suffer long) ,gentleness,goodness,faith,meekness,temperence: against such things there is no law.

    And they that are CHRIST’S have crucified the flesh

  16. Jèsus the Hòmosexual says:

    And I believe that the only hope for backwards thinking, brainwashed sheep like you is too far out of reach. For it requires the ability to think critically, it requires a certain level of intelligence – something which you clearly do not possess.
    If you base your moral compass and your sense of right and wrong, on an ancient book that openly talks about rape, and stoning people to death, congratulations, you might actually be mentally retarded.

    Just because millions of people all over the world are brainwashed into believing the same thing, doesn’t change the fact that YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED

    Actually no wait. Disregard everything I’ve said and also ignore science and the modern world. Keep living in ignorance. I hear it’s bliss

    • clinton alexander says:

      whatever hillsong church is backslidden not a true church and the need to repent, brother chritopher

    • Anonymous says:

      Read the bible before making remarks such as this. You obviously haven’t read it or done any type of research or inductive study on it. It’s obvious.

  17. clinton alexander says:

    whatever hillsong church is backslidden not a true church and they need to repent, brother chritopher is right

  18. clinton alexander says:

    ur the one that is brainwashed and decieved and in bondage and mentally retarded and ur an idiot get saved get Jesus, brother christopher is a man of God

  19. omega says:

    How would not allowing people to express their love have anything to do with your relationship with God?

    Examine your hearts. Where is your Love? Where is your trust that if people love with their whole hearts God will meet them.

    Who are you to judge anyone? You separate yourself from the world. You don’t even understand your own Bible. Be in the world, loving it, but not following the ego. That is your creed. Instead, you hate and see yourself unworthy.

    Oh go quote your scripture justifying hate, but hate is hate. You hide behind religion.

    A loving heart knows no boundaries or religion.

    You hate them for questioning your morality.

    You Christians have become Malignant Narcissists, now I am name calling. Separating yourself like this and judging others is the definition of evil, not love.

    You make me sad how little you know Jesus. I’m not even a Christian and I know his words to Love your neighbor as yourself. I used to be. Seemed so few knew Jesus. You have absolutely zero room to judge anyone. Where is your grace?

    LGBT folks, you love with abandon, ignore the ignorant.

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