The nation, the elites, the entire world is in shock. On November 8th, America did something that has not been seen since possibly the election of Ronald Reagan to the White House, and that was the astounding election of Donald Trump. There is no question that a resounding voice of anger was released by millions of disgruntled voters over the past several years, even giving a platform to someone who might not have ever run for office had there not been such an overwhelming sentiment as there was throughout the nation. It was our own “Brexit” moment.

But I’m not going to get into the political analysis of the election and why Trump won, no, that’s actually for those who do that for a living. I on the other hand will venture into something much more important rather than why Trump won, instead, why the church has become now part of the political process, and its attempt to make America great again by transforming it into some sort of modern day Israel – for the church.

For the past several days upon the news President-elect Trump won the nomination (electoral vote and not the popular vote), I wondered why? Why would someone who had no political experience, no foreign understanding on world issues, whose own ideas about the rest of the world and how it should work, how could he become the President elect? Then I began to realize that it wasn’t simply about Mr. Trump, or his personality, his charisma, his celebrity-ism or his wealth as a successful businessman, it was something more that had nothing to do with Mr. Trump, and everything to do with the sentiment of the people. In simple terms, Mr. Trump, who is keenly aware of social trends, realized that the only way he could actually win is to tap into what was already brooding – public frustration and anger. It was in fact anger that led to the rise of Donald Trump. And it was that same emotion that Mr. Trump fed into which would bring him to the path to which he now rests – the White House.

Yet, where was the church in this movement? Where was the Christians during this particular election cycle? They were waiting for someone who would give them the promise that they had been waiting for since the former days of Ronald Reagan, they were awaiting for their political Messiah, and the moment that he (Trump) had announced his intention to step into the political fray to become the next President of the United States, they found him. They found “The One”.

While I will not go into character issues about Mr. Trump, instead, I want to focus on the more dire issues concerning this election, and that is why the church has become so politicized in these last days?

To say that I have been grieved in my spirit over this current election season goes beyond the term grieved, I am mortified by how that many within the body of Christ has become so vocal, oppressive, even threatening to anyone who would voice their concerns over their particular candidate, or worse, disagreed with their choice for President. From Kenneth Copeland threatening anyone who would not vote for Trump by suggesting that they would answer to God at the judgment, to other well known Charismatic, Evangelical and Pentecostal leaders who even dared to suggest that if one did not vote for Trump, they would actually lose their salvation!

It not only startles me as a fellow Christian that so many within the church would even support someone like Mr. Trump, but to dare suggest that those who didn’t should be held accountable for all the evils in the world should Trump not win? Even going to such lengths as to harass believers into voting for Trump or they should find another church to attend? Yes friends, this is all well documented, it happened. Yet even more, the church said a hearty AMEN in response. It was truly a ‘take Trump or else’ movement that mirrored the early mafia/union days of the early 30’s to anyone who dared voted against Unions in America. Yet throughout the church world, Christian leaders, prophets, pastors and such were all committed to Trump, for many it was not even an option, for Trump was, as so many called him, “God’s Candidate”. The reality was, and remains – he’s not.

I believe that what we saw on November 8th was nothing short of a church which has sunk to its lowest level since I can even remember. I saw a church divided, (and divided still) anger, bitter, displaying not the love of Christ for anyone who was not like minded, but one which took aim at any one and any thing which would jeopardize their vision of America at restoring the nation back to some sort of mythical city where God could reign – literally. And they had their prophets as well proclaiming such. From the NAR, the Dominionist’s, the Charismatic sects as well as many fundamentalists, all declaring that God said this was the man whom would restore America to its heyday. The only problem is, what period of time are we going to go back to? To the 1950’s version of America where blacks had little say in matters of culture? Or the 1900s where women had no right to vote? Are we going to now dictate what kind of religion can worship freely in America? The Muslim? The Jew? Are they allowed to stay? The truth is, the America so many of these who have aligned with Mr. Trump’s vision of America have failed to realize is, that America has changed since the 50s. No longer is this the all American, Christian America that so many have become enamored with from the portraits of Norman Rockwell. This America is more diverse today than ever before. In other words, the days of old are past.

The truth is, the church was wrong with its direction for the past year and half, and whatever testimony they had with the world, was all lost the moment Trump won the Oval office. Throw dirt in the air all you want, the fact remains, the one true virtue of the church was the standard by which it held, which meant it did not get involved in the political affairs of a nation, instead, it stood separate as a reminder of what true standards and character meant. Yet we threw that away the moment the church aligned itself with Mr. Trump, whose own character did not align itself to the virtues of one who claims to walk with Christ.

So I sought the Lord, I prayed about what took place two nights ago, and finally the Lord led me to the word – his word, for an answer. It was found in Ezekiel 12:9-12. “Son of man, has not the house of Israel, the rebellious house, said to you, ‘What are you doing?’ Say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: These actions contain a message for King Zedekiah in Jerusalem and for all the people of Israel.’ Explain that your actions are a sign to show what will soon happen to them, for they will be driven into exile as captives. “Even Zedekiah will leave Jerusalem at night through a hole in the wall, taking only what he can carry with him. He will cover his face, and his eyes will not see the land he is leaving.

What I feel the Lord leading me to say is this, #1, the church has committed idolatry by erecting a man as their savior, their hope for a nation for they have in turn placed America above God. They have committed idolatry because their love for Patriotism and the flag and the Constitution rises above their love for God and his word. They want something that they cannot have, to which God is attempting to change, but they are fighting it tooth and nail, and they will lose.

#2, Trump was a stopgap in God’s prophetic timetable. Meaning, he is only President for a brief moment.

#3, The nation will never become a place for the church to hide in, nor will Trump’s election resolve anything, it will only get worse as we get further into things in this world. There is clearly a massive deception taking place surrounding Trump, and it’s one that Satan has created to lure the church once again into a false hope.

#4 There will be a woman President. Several years ago I heard the Lord speak to me to say that “She will lead them to war”, and at that particular time, I believed the only logical conclusion to that word would in fact be Hillary Clinton simply because she was the only logical selection as no other would do so (at that time). However, even though I know God spoke to me, I know God revealed to me what would eventually come, it was simply not her who would step inside the Oval Office. The prophecy is accurate yet the details were wrong. Which brings me to my warning that we must always be patient when God speaks. When Agabus spoke of a coming famine (Acts 11:28), it took ten years from the moment he spoke it to it coming to pass. We must learn to unlearn religious traditions that we have embraced, and learn to trust God at his very word, like Abraham, Moses, Paul and Daniel.  Yet I believe that whomever the next President will be, I believe we will see a woman step into the White House, and that will bring us to some sort of significant conclusion to America.

#5 I believe the reason why God led me to Ezekiel 12:9-12 is simple, when we examine scripture, we see something very interesting the prophet was facing himself at that time. Ezekiel saw the Babylonian Empire coming, but Israel did not. They believed, by via false prophets, that Israel would be a great nation still, it would grow and offset the Babylonians. They even had a “King” named Zedekiah whom they believed would protect Israel. But God said something very significant about this man whom Israel declared a King – he wasn’t. God called him a Prince. If it’s to be noted, Zedekiah was not to rule as Davids predecessor, instead, Jehoiachin the last King God honored would rule, there would be no other. God would not honor this selection that the people desired. And Israel would go into captivity. Much the same when the people desired a King, God told the prophet Samuel to remind the people that he had indeed desired a King for them, a Godly man who would be after his own heart whose name was David. But the people would not wait, and instead, desired Saul, one who would be ruthless and eventually lose not only his kingdom, but see the ark carried off by the Philistines, dying by his own sword. Trump will not stop what is coming, for he is the peoples choice, he was not God’s choice.

Today, the modern church is exactly like Israel of old. It is amazing to see the resemblance of Israel to the modern church in the West. But by grace God protects his people. Yet I believe it sets an example of how that many would become deceived in the last days by such a great deception to which the world, and even the church, could not imagine. The one thing Trump mirrors for me as one looking outside the system, is how undiscerning the church is today, and how much it truly is captivated by this world. It wants the things of God and the world. Some would even suggest that I am unpatriotic, that I resent or dislike America. But they would be wrong. I have great respect to what America is, and more importantly, what it was. But something has obviously turned spiritually speaking in the nation, it is not what it once was.

So I leave this topic with a heaviness within my spirit, knowing that whatever is coming, God is giving the church, not America, time to set its affairs in order. Not to change America in the hopes of restoring it back to its former glory, but instead, the church coming back to the cross, the only means by which it can withstand the great deception that is about to cover this world, including America.

I stand by this prophetic word.

From my desk in China,







  1. Janet says:

    Chris thank you for telling Christians they don’t have enough sense to make their own decisions. I find it pompous on your part to judge us andour decision to elect a man who was willing to step up to the plate. Why didn’t you run for office? It seems to me you are playing God. I chose Trump (for some reason we have these elections every 4 years) and didn’t feel like electing elites like Hillary & Bill to take hard working Americans like myself closer to communism, closer to removing not only freedom of speech but freedom of thought, closer to taking everything we,be earned- for what? So they have complete power over individuals. I am incredibly disturbed by the audacity of your condemnation of free thought and free choices.

    • I agree with this message. I have found many of my Christian friends have placed this man as someone who would lead our nation into a golden age.It won’t happen; much is ahead.



      6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

      7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. Matt. 24

      “I tell you that there is chaos ahead. On every corner there will be chaos erupting. For the final outcome of this election will bring out much violence.

      For the hatred and the division will spread and will fill the land. It will culminate in a war between two factions. The Civil War in the 1800’s will not be unlike this one.

      Who can hold the nation together, would say the Lord? The arm of the flesh is not capable. You have entered into one of the last chapters of your history. This is the end of an era, would say the Lord. For the times, they are a ‘changing.

      A brief moment of peace will begin with the new year, for at first it will appear that with this new regime, the promises of a brighter future are in store. But the climate of the world will have intensified, and wars will have continued. The bear and the dragon will have conspired together; and their plans held in secret will eventually take their course. ”

      Stephen Hanson



        2 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and have them put to death. 13 You will be hated by all because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. Mark 13

        “I tell you that this coming fall is going to tear open a great division in the United States.
        For with the upcoming election, more and more fights will be breaking out. Entire churches will be divided. The Capitol building will house a new candidate. But many who thought that this would happen, will be surprised at the outcome.

        The time has come for all believers to put aside their differences. The time has come to put away your opinions. For there will be bloodshed and hatred in the streets. Brother will hate brother. And then the great time that I have spoken of in my word, will occur.
        For it is not a time to fear. It is not a time to lose heart. For with the growing darkness there will also be a growing light. And this nation which was once the home of the free and the land of the brave, will change.

        Many people think that a certain person will make your land great again. But I tell you that these things are not going to happen. My word states that in the last days great trouble will come. It is inevitable; your prayers can’t keep it from happening.

        But know that I will strengthen you for these days that are ahead. Know that I will enable you to go through them. And great exploits will be done in my name. Many will be freed from the chains that have held them; but a deceiving spirit will also be seen in the land. ”

        Stephen Hanson

    • MattStar1980 says:

      The entire message was lost on you.

      • MattStar1980 says:

        @Janet: The message went right over your head.

      • ajc says:

        I don’t know how to comment except to hit the reply button. This actually isn’t a reply, just a comment. What I don’t get is why so many people call church goers Christians. Must not have been to many churches lately or at least none I’ve been to. And the pastors (??????) like Kenneth Copeland. He is so off and I would not consider him or most of his contemporaries anybody to follow. Come on, get real. What person who read the bible would vote for Trump. What man of God would threaten people with God’s judgment if they didn’t vote a certain way – their way. This is so off and bad, I can’t even believe it. Talk about sheep being lead astray. The people who voted for Trump aren’t the ones who feel disenfranchised, They have the same values as him, that’s all. ajc

    • Adrian says:

      There were at least 2 Christian choices, if you would have taken the time to pray, ask God for direction. You may have found a Christian candidate. A prophet does not play God, however God works through them as a gift to open the eyes of God’s people. Praying for you, and that God will bless you with wisdom, and the gift to discern.

    • PabloPublic says:

      @ Janet Seriously, Janet, your reaction is nothing short of astonishing! How on earth did you come to the conclusions you did from reading this article?! Something is obviously amiss in how you read it.

      @Christopher, I think you hit the nail on the head here. Thank you. Some serious lessons to be heeded here. I’m not sure your recounting of the Saul v David choice to make your point was scripturally accurate, though, because the choice was actually between the Lord and a king (who turned out to be Saul). That said, the point is still very valid that we can’t look to man for our “salvation” and that being chosen by God doesn’t necessarily mean one is godly.

    • ajc says:

      Janet He is not condemning free thought. He is expressing his free thought. Trump is a monster. You don’t think he is an elitist? Dishonest, adulterer many times over, lied to and abused his wives, gone bankrupct over and over so he wouldn’t have to pay his bills, brags about not paying taxes. hob nobs with America’s enemy Russia.. Wants war but betting his children never put on a uniform. Bet he never did either. You insult Americans. ajc

    • ajc says:

      Janet you didn’t get anything right. Step up to the plate?

  2. Mjq says:

    Amen!!! This is almost exactly the same word that my Pastor gave……
    we really have to be on our faces seeking GOD for our children, grand children, brothers, sisters, family, friends, neighbors, our nation,
    Surely GOD is calling His people back to there first love we need to pray& fast like never before and get the word of God in us……I believe this is the beginning of the end…

  3. Nyika D says:

    One of the best comments I have ever read. I pointed this to some brothers in a forum and was seen as anti- Trump. I see that the church was clamouring for a ” king” and we got one. If the church is not discerning how will we avoid deception
    Thank you very much brother for such a clear call in the face of what many see as a God sent President. Your article may not be popular but it’s very true!

    • Bro. Nick says:

      Nyika D – Well said – and thank you for standing for “the certainty of the words of truth” – It is my personal Biblical understanding that real Persecution of Christians may occur at any moment – like ‘Kristallnacht’ in Nazi Germany – which happened 78 years ago !

      I was recently led to watch a message by the late Dave Hunt given 29 years ago
      – Seducing Spirits and Doctrines Of Devils – Dave Hunt

      – To me it is a stunning Biblically sound foundational presentation that sheds much light upon what I describe as the ‘church’ of ‘Lukewarm CoeXist Ecumenical Laodiceanism’ – not only here in ‘Amerika’ which has
      – ‘Legally Murdered’ an estimated FIFTY to SEVENTY MILLION unborn babies in the last 43+ years ~ But ONLY “the Lord God Almighty” actually KNOWS HOW MANY ! ! !
      – that has recently ‘Legalized same-sex marriage’
      – and even more recently condoned ‘Trans-sexual’ perversions – LGBPTTQQIIAA+ @
      – and then ‘non-binary gender identification’

      – But the same thing is occurring all around the world – for ‘the public church’ is constantly compromising with “the world” – for it is my Biblical understanding that there are very-very-very few truly “born again” believers and followers of “our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”
      (Matthew 7:13-23 ~ KJV)
      – Thanks be unto “the Lord God Almighty” that there are always a Biblical “remnant” “who HAVE NOT bowed the knee to the image of Baal”

    • ajc says:

      I see a country clamoring for an immoral dictator and we got one. ajc

  4. Stephen Paul says:

    To the author and all with ears to hear:

    There are no true prophets of God today as there were in the apostolic period or prior. That ended with the former age in AD70 (the destruction of the old: the temple, sacrificial system, etc.) Today God speaks through His written word, for which we should be thankful, especially as truth is hard to be found outside God’s written word. Consider the likes of what is spoken by today’s many false prophets (Copeland, Joyner, Stone, Cahn… the list goes on). Many, if not most of them (the big names, at least) are beholden to the Vatican, the head of the world’s largest apostate “church.”

    “Let God be true, but every man a liar.”

    So, the things you claim to have “heard from God” came from your own insight. Let me put it this way: If you would not have had any access to news for the past 30 years, do you believe God would have “given” you this revelation you felt led to share with the world? I would say no. Divine revelation (true prophecy) is not the same as what we see and hear so-called prophets offer today. And though some claim to be prophets or apostles, those “offices” no longer exist. God’s word is clear: He speaks through his written word and we are warned to not add to it… or else. Hebrews 1:1-2, 2 Peter 1:21, 2 Peter 2:1, Proverbs 30:5-6, Deuteronomy 4:2, Revelation 22:18. Where there were once prophets, today we have teachers of the written word.

    Did you get some things right? Yes. Especially the part about Christians foolishly putting their faith and trust and hope in any man (or woman). But you also missed on some things. For one, I would say many who call themselves Christian are not, so it’s actually incorrect to refer to them as such. Are they professing Christians? Yes. But not all who say “Lord, Lord…” Matthew 7:21-23. This election may have just worked to help us identify the true Christians from the false, as much as we can tell by their fruits, and especially as we examine the things said from many pulpits and TV evangelists.

    Secondly, it appears that you don’t understand how things actually work, and your mention of “The Constitution” as if there is only one, proves your limited understanding of how the American political/governmental process actually works. I would suggest you research COLUMBIA ORGANIC ACT OF 1871 TWO CONSTITUTIONS DICTATORSHIP CORPORATION. Also research the assassinations of JFK and Lincoln and how they relate to the Jesuit Order and international banking cartel and Zionists.

    And remember this quote:

    “Presidents are selected, not elected.”–Franklin D. Roosevelt (selected 4 times)

    The Jesuits/Vatican, Freemasons and Zionists (as well as related secret societies) run the show. The U.S. President is a figurehead just about as much as the Queen of England is. The U.S. Presidency offers to “We The People” the illusion of power and choice. It’s an illusion. Nothing more or less. Christians are not responsible for electing Trump any more than those who call themselves Jews (78% for Obama) were responsible for electing Obama in 2008. Neither group can be given credit or blame for their votes — it was a SELECTION process, not an election process. Roosevelt knew of that which he spoke.

    It’s more accurate to think of the President as the hired bus driver. He drives the bus. He doesn’t own the bus and he doesn’t establish the route. His puppet masters have those roles. And when the puppet masters don’t like the way the bus driver is driving they get a new driver. (JFK, 1963; Lincoln, 1865; etc.) This is the political reality, though very few understand it. Though many say they understand there are “powers that be” they don’t “get” the big picture. So they blame the bus driver or give him praise as they see fit. For more understanding on this issue, research HEGELIAN DIALECTIC.

    And for all the would-be or self-proclaimed prophets, know that God has spoken. He has spoken through His written word . Don’t add to His words, lest ye be called a liar.

    • Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Curiously, and without biblical support, this fivefold list of ordained ministries from Ephesians 4:11 has been split by the modern church into two lists.

      There is broad acceptance of the evangelist, pastor, and teacher as being valid ministries for the church today. But the ministries of apostles and Christian prophets are relegated by many to the first-century church only. But in recent years, many Christians have been reexamining the Scriptures to answer the increasingly heard questions: Are there apostles today? Are there prophets today? Were the ancient prophets and apostles the only valid ones? Or are there modern day prophets (that is, Christian prophets) and contemporary apostles? Does apostolic and prophetic ministry continue in our day?

      The intent of this bible study is to prove biblically that all of what have been called the “fivefold” ministry or “ascension gift” ministries are valid and needed in the Christian Church today. The “perfecting of the saints” intended by the Lord (Ephesians 4:12) will require all five of these ministry gifts given by the Lord Jesus Christ (Ephesians 4:11).

      Ephesians 2:19-20 …God’s people…[are] built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.

      1. Apostles and prophets are the two foundational ministries in the body of Christ. I have great respect for dedicated evangelists, pastors and teachers. I am personally ordained to two of those three ministries — pastor and bible teacher. But the bible singles out prophets and apostles as the two ministries which, anchored to Jesus the Chief Cornerstone, undergird the Lord’s Church. All Christians are entitled to be built on this apostolic and prophetic foundation. And we will see later in this study that these are not just restricted to the early church’s apostles and the Old Testament prophets. They include contemporary, modern day, living prophets and apostles as well.
      1 Corinthians 12:28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.

      Ephesians 4:7-8, 11 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men” … [11] It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers.
      2. Who gives these ministries to the Church? The verses above declare that it is God the Father and Jesus the Son of God who give these ministries to the church. Jesus Himself is the premier expression of each of these offices.
      • “Jesus, the apostle … whom we confess” (Hebrews 3:1)

      • “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth” (Matthew 21:11).

      • Jesus was certainly the Great Soulwinner, the consummate evangelist.

      • Jesus is “the Shepherd [Greek word for “pastor”] and Overseer of your souls” (1 Peter 2:25).

      • “Rabbi, we know you [Jesus] are a teacher who has come from God” (John 3:2).
      It seems that Jesus — the chief apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher — is giving an expression of Himself to the Church in the form of these ministry gifts. For example, in Paul, Peter, and the other apostles we see a partial reflection of the perfect apostleship of Christ. In Agabus (Acts 11:27f; 21:10f) and other Christian prophets we see a partial expression of the perfect prophetic ministry of Jesus. The same could be said for God-given evangelists, pastors and teachers.

      3. Apostles and prophets are in the Christian Church for the entire church age. A number of Scriptures (see below) make it very clear that prophets and apostles were intended for the full church age, and not just for the first century church.

      Ephesians 3:4-5 In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to men in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets.

      Paul declares that the mystery has “now been revealed…to God’s holy apostles and prophets.” These were “now” — that is, contemporary — apostles and prophets in the Church several decades after Christ’s resurrection and ascension to heaven.

      Some have erroneously identified the “prophets” in this verse as Old Testament prophets. But this very Scripture says quite the opposite. It states that the prophets receiving this “now” revelation were “NOT … men in other generations.” No, these were Christian prophets, contemporary to the time in which Paul was writing. There were New Testament prophets (and apostles, too) existing in the church long after Jesus had ascended back to heaven.

      Ephesians 4:8, 11-13 This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men” … [11] It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

      Here the apostle Paul gives us additional proofs that apostles and prophets were to continue during the Church Age.

      • “When He ascended on high…He gave … some to be apostles, some to be prophets…” These were not the original Twelve apostles. This refers to apostles and prophets that Jesus continued to give after His ascension to heaven! For that reason some have called the “fivefold” ministries of Ephesians 4:11 the “ascension gift ministries.” In His ascended position in heaven, Jesus continues to give all five, not just evangelists, pastors and teachers.

      • And this giving of five ministries by Christ was not just to get the early church started. Rather, the giving of all five is needed “until we all…become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.” That is an ongoing process occupying the entire time between Jesus’ First Coming and His Second Coming.

      Revelation 11:10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
      These “two prophets” are the Lord’s “two witnesses” (Rev. 11:3) who will prophesy and do great signs and miracles at the very close of the Church Age during the time of the Antichrist. In this verse we see Christian prophets — here, end-time prophets — long after the time of the early church, in fact at the very end of this age.
      4. Is the New Testament Church today properly structured?
      The answer to that question can be found in a very simple test. May I add that most Christians will fail this test!
      • Question #1 — Which three of the Ephesians 4:11 ministries are mentioned most in the New Testament?

      • Question #2 — Which two of those fivefold ministries are mentioned least in the New Testament?
      The answers may shock you. They indicate how far out of balance the contemporary church has grown compared to the original church that Christ established on the earth.
      Answer to question #1:
      • The word “apostle(s)” occurs 85 times in the New Testament.

      • The word “prophet(s)” occurs over 150 times in the New Testament, about 20 of those occurrences referring distinctly to prophets in the Church Age.

      • The word “teacher(s)” occurs 125 times in the New Testament.
      Answer to question #2:
      • The word “evangelist(s)” occurs only 3 times in the New Testament.

      • The word “pastor(s)” occurs precisely one (1) time in the entire New Testament! One time! (Ephesians 4:11)
      Consider those numbers. The Bible speaks of New Testament apostles, prophets, or teachers a combined total of at least 200 times. Pastors and evangelists are mentioned a combined total of four times!
      And yet the modern day church calls most ministers by the term “Pastor” and shies away from “apostles” and “prophets” like a horse avoiding a rattlesnake! Or they’ll talk around the subject without dealing with it directly: “Brother Jones has an apostolic mantle.” Or “Bill has a prophetic mantle.” These terms are not found in the bible, where they unashamedly called them “apostles” or “prophets.” Man’s prejudices, fears, or misinterpretations have deprived the Lord’s Church of the two foundational ministries — apostles and prophets — that He Himself placed on earth. The Church today, wherever it denies these two ministries, is improperly structured. Pastors, evangelists, and teachers alone cannot bring the church to maturity. They were never intended to. Jesus gave all five ministries for that purpose.

      In the two sections that follow, we will examine the characteristics and work of prophets and apostles in the Church Age. Nowhere in Scripture is there a concise, precisely worded “job description” of these two offices. Therefore, I will not try to define the terms “prophet” or “apostle.” Rather, I will offer to the reader overviews, or composites, of these two ministries in the New Testament. Of course, no individual apostle or prophet can be expected to fulfill every aspect of these descriptions. That level of perfection remains the privilege of the Lord Jesus Himself.
      5. What are the biblical characteristics and ministry of apostles?
      • Acts 2:4 They were filled with the Spirit.

      • Acts 2:14-36 They preached the Word of God.

      • Acts 3:1-8 They healed the sick.

      • Acts 4:1-12 They were persecuted.

      • Acts 5:1-11 They pronounced God’s judgment.

      • Acts 5:12 They worked signs and wonders.

      • Acts 5:42 They taught and preached Jesus Christ.

      • Acts 6:1-6 They ordained deacons.

      • Acts 8:14-17 They laid their hands on others to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

      • Acts 8 and later chapters. They founded and/or strengthened new churches.

      • Acts 9:36-43 They raised the dead.

      • Acts 10 They preached to the Gentiles.

      • Acts 12:1-11 They were martyred, persecuted, and sometimes delivered.

      • Acts 13:4 They were sent by the Holy Spirit (the root of the word “apostle” means “sent”).

      • Acts 13:11 They pronounced a curse.

      • Acts 14:21-22 They confirmed disciples in their faith.

      • Acts 14:23 They ordained elders.

      • Acts 15:1-21 They settled doctrinal disputations.

      • Acts 15:4,6,13,19 Some were church leaders.

      • Acts 16:18 They cast out demons.

      • Acts 19:22 They sent forth other ministering men.

      • Acts 20-28 list further ministries that apostles performed.

      • 1 Corinthians 3:10 They were wise master builders. They laid spiritual foundations.

      • 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 The apostle Paul warned his “sons” in the faith.

      • 1 Corinthians 7:1 They counseled and answered the saints’ questions.

      • 1 Corinthians 11:34 They set churches in order.

      • 2 Corinthians 11:28 Paul exercised “care of all the churches.”

      • 2 Corinthians 13:10 They used their authority for edification.

      • Ephesians 2:20 Apostles are part of the foundation of the church.

      • Ephesians 3:3-5 They received revelation from God.

      • Ephesians 4:11-12 They perfected the saints.
      6. What are the biblical characteristics and ministry of New Testament, Christian prophets?
      • Acts 11:27-28 They (1) did trans-local ministry and (2) they foretold future events.

      • Acts 13:1 They can be among the leaders of a local church.

      • Acts 15:32 they exhorted and confirmed the brethren, sometimes with “many words”.

      • Acts 21:9-11 Prophets may speak predictive, personal prophecy under divine inspiration. It is worth noting that Philip had four daughters in that household who had the spiritual “gift of prophecy” (vs. 9, Amplified). But God did not use them to speak a major predictive, prophetic word to the apostle Paul. Rather, God brought to Philip’s house “a prophet named Agabus” from Judea (vs. 10).

      • 1 Corinthians 14:29 They prophesied in church services.

      • Ephesians 2:20 Prophets are part of the foundation of the church.

      • Ephesians 3:3-5 Prophets may receive revelation from God.

      • Ephesians 4:11-12 Prophets perfected the saints.
      7. Should we identify and recognize apostles and prophets today? Certainly!
      Luke 6:13 “When morning came, [Jesus] called his disciples to him and chose twelve of them, whom he also designated apostles.” If Jesus named them and designated and recognized them as apostles, how can we do otherwise?

      Acts 14:4 “…the apostles Barnabas and Paul…” The New Testament, here and in many other verses, consistently recognized men by name in the office of apostle.

      1 Corinthians 14:29, 32, 37 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said…. [32] The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets…. [37] If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command.
      The early church — here, the church at Corinth — found it quite normal to have a prophet or prophets in the church.
      Acts 13:1 In the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers.
      Again, it was not unusual, but accepted, that there might be prophets (even plural prophets) in a local church. And the New Testament church identifies some Christian prophets by name:
      • Agabus (Acts 11:28; 21:10)

      • Judas and Silas (Acts 15:32)

      Matthew 10:41a, KJV He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward.

      Why beat around the bush? Jesus tells us to receive someone who is a prophet “in the name of a prophet.” There is no biblical encouragement for identifying certain ones as “evangelists, pastors and teachers” and then identifying true prophets and apostles with descriptive but controversy-avoiding phrases like: “He has an apostolic [or prophetic] ministry.” As if the Lord has given three nouns (evangelist, pastor, teacher) and two adjectives (apostolic, prophetic)! No! Jesus said to receive a prophet “in the name of a prophet.” It’s time for the Church to shake off the fear of man and return to biblical patterns.

      My prayer is that once more in the 21st century, as in the first century, the Church will return to the clear pattern of Scripture. May the body of Christ once again grow and thrive as we open our hearts to the God-given ministries of modern day prophets and apostles, as well as evangelists, pastors and teachers.

    • Sam says:

      Wholy agree on every aspect. I had lost all hope and knew the Elitists were unstoppable. Trump is a breather for the church for whichever reason we pressupose he came to power. The following article on this forum about the validity of the 5 fold ministry upholds the points I don’t agree with in your article.
      Thanks again for being so informative to an MSM dumbed down society.

    • ajc says:

      You are right and I agree with everything you said until the conspiracy thing re: Jesuits etc. Really intelligent and well thought out. ajc

    • ajc says:

      StephenPaul what are some of your favorite sites? So many people don’t know what 70 AD did and that it was warned of by Christ so believers could flee to the mountains and Judea.ajc

    • ajc says:

      StephenPaul Where did you read about the 70 AD thing. ajc

    • ajc says:

      Stephen I do not know how to respond to you on facebook so will respond here. Don’t know if you will get this. NORMAL in respect to Obama – nice marriage, nice wife, nice children, speaks normal, doesn’t rant or use filthy language, raised by his grandparents after his mom died. has done well even though he came from a hard background with a screwed up dad,smart. So many things that make him normal. Balanced life. One wife – one marriage. Happy. ajc

  5. Stephen Paul says:

    By the way, which candidate did I vote for? None. I don’t vote for bus drivers. There is no point, and I find nothing in God’s word to compel me to vote for someone who represents a completely corrupt system.

    Suggested video (YouTube): The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers

    • Stephen Paul says:

      Something to consider:

      Has a trap been set for Christians to fall into? Specifically, is the mainstream media (as well as alternative media and the blogsphere) being used (intentionally, and not) to foster in the public’s mind that it is Christians who are responsible for electing for Trump? I can think of reasons for this. I can even see some things playing out today on the campuses and in the streets of America) that may be a result of such a painting of “reality” — distorted though it may be. Can you?

      Watch out for traps. Let NO man deceive you.

      • ajc says:

        Every church I have been to (seriously) had a strong republican slant. What is wrong with that is the hate for anything that is not republican. Being a democrat made me an untouchable. I did not know God because I was a democrat. I was to be pitied for being so blind. I have decided not to lose my peace over this election. My faith needs to be somewhere else other than the world.ajc

      • ajc says:

        Why are almost all of the people who go to church republicans? Why do they have such hate for democrats? Why do they talk of character being so important but then vote for someone who is so immoral with a gutter mouth who has so little regard for women and the poor? Why do most church people consider being in the money as a big Christian thing? It just doesn’t make sense if you read the bible. Why do the people in church follow like sheep? All of them. ajc

    • ajc says:

      Stephen Paul The media that you and Trump are so against simply tell the news. Most of them are just like the rest of us. I think fostering hate and fear of them is so obviously done for a reason. Because they are allowed to report everything which apparently has exposed your particular party and especially Trump for some things that they wanted to hide or playdown. You may not be a registered republican but you are a republican at heart. Most countries don’t allow freedom of the press. If Trump and some other republicans had their way, it would be like that in our country. They would control the press for their own use and propaganda. The National Enquirer and magazines like that would rule. It was the national enquirer who bought the story of one of Trump’s mistresses so it wouldn’t be published. Not rumor – fact. Wonder what they will do when he doesn’t build the wall he promised them. What will the KKK do when he doesn’t dance to their tune .I looked at your facebook site and I take back anything I said good about your comments. You are a hate and fear monger, everything you speak against. And big on innuendos and conspiracy theories. Your mind is caught whether you realize it or not. Your comments portray a person who has no peace and you RANT. And Sid Roth. His show is so off into the supernatural (the fake and mystical one). Sounds like you listen to Jonathan Crosby. Maybe not but you used one of his quotes and he did a good job on the 70 AD thing because he got it from someone else’s writings. Obama was one of the best and most normal presidents we have ever had. He was just the wrong color for some people (even church goers). And all of these people in my last church group voted for Trump. They were all sure Obama was the end time antichrist and was going to put a chip in them. Such blind ignorance and prejudice. ajc

  6. Nina says:

    Reblogged this on For Such A Time As This and commented:
    Here’s another interesting post to consider.

  7. Nina says:

    Christopher, it is obvious from the comments posted on your page that you hit a nerve. Keep up the good work sounding the alarm.

  8. caroline thompson says:

    truth always wins out in the end,I have being following this blog time to time and the comments are thought provoking ,some are acidic in comments when there flesh is not catered to , but the word is what must our action and thoughts God knows them, so as professing Christians where is our Christ like meekness to answer or make comments .The outcome does not surprise me of the election ,neither the behavior of the church representatives,.We are in the last days ,and many spirits are let loose for such a time.
    Your blogs are all interesting , it is not about hitting nerves the truth brings offence,some of the blogs I feel ashamed at the tone and what is pouring from your hearts, in the last days scripture does say many will not heed to sound doctrine and take unto themselves teachers /pastors/prophets to tell them what they want to hear.
    The spirit of God must be what guides us. Christoper continue to do what you can as you are led by the holy spirit, and for the rest of us do more fasting and praying and clean up our act or lives and reach out to more souls who are lost.
    Some times God can use the simplest thing to confound the wisest thing in this word .
    For those of you who are true to the cross be more stead fast, on this journey the signs of the time cannot be denied. Lastly our tradition, culture must never be placed above what God says for our lives if we risk sinnining against God.


  9. bbrown226 says:

    Regarding some of your points: (1) I respectfully disagree that Christians in general have erected Trump as a savior and certainly think that “the church committing adultery” is very strong and judgmental language. The evangelical Christians I know personally prayed fervently for God to intervene in this election; otherwise, the popular vote might have elected Hillary. After all, God’s Word is clear: “God sets up kings and deposes kings” (Daniel, Romans, John). Over the last 18 months, numerous pastors, evangelical authors, and prophetic teachers have cited posts and Biblical research (and even some claiming to have heard personally from the Lord like this author) likening Trump to Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar, both of whom were horrible people until they came to know the Lord of Lords personally. There are many other examples: Rahab, King David, Mary Magdalene, Saul/Paul, the woman at the well…the Bible is full of them. They all made some terrible choices before they came to be followers of Jesus. We are no different. I don’t know even one believer who voted for Trump because they have chosen the Constitution and country over their love for the King of the Universe. In fact, just the opposite–they cite God’s love of His children for honoring the pouring out of His spirit in these last days and His Hand in this election in order that He may do it via a man who is NOT a Godly man (like Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar) but whom God may very possibly use as His servant (also like Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzar). Who are any of us to argue with that possibility? No one knows what God’s plans are for Trump at this point but God Himself, and He is indeed sovereign. Trump wasn’t my first choice, or second, or third…but who am I to question whether God intends to use this mere man for His purpose? At least, Trump has sought counsel from some Godly men, including his evangelical VP choice, as well as others.
    (3) We are not called to hide in a nation or in any institution; we are called to hide in the shadow of the Cross of Jesus and be washed by His blood; and thank God that He sent His son for our redemption! We would have NO HOPE otherwise. No country, no government, no institution can take that Hiding Place from us. I don’t disagree with this election not resolving everything, either; but I do know that the horrendous, unthinkable Liberal tearing apart of the U.S. and the vile evil that has taken place with the Supreme Court’s shoving gay marriage and same-sex agenda, abortion, and other evil agenda (and blasphemous decisions) down our throats would hasten the demise of our God-given right to worship as we please and believe and do as the Constitution guarantees us the freedoms to think/say/do if Clinton had been elected. And I don’t know personally of ANYone putting the kind of hope into Trump that they put in their Lord Jesus. No believer I know has false hope where Christ is concerned, as He is their ONLY hope–certainly not a mere man.

    • ajc says:

      What about the vile (your words) “preachers” tearing down marriage with adultery. Hagee, Arthur Blessit, Jim Baker and the list goes on and on. At least most gays don’t pretend to do it because God told them too. They aren’t in the pulpit. ajc

    • ajc says:

      One thing we can say for Trump – he doesn’t even pretend to be a believer. But a certain “preacher” made sure he was seen in his church service. Probably the only time he has ever attended church. And the ones that prayed over him. Some of the phoniest people in the world. Using Christianity for their gain. They live the same life style as him and he would probably fit in with them except he doesn’t even pretend to go to church and will probably blow them off now as he no longer needs them (evangelicals). He probably won’t even return their calls because now he doesn’t have to.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Preach!! If anyone were to see my wall, I’ve been posting the SAME thing. God has NEVER asked His children to choose evil. Per His Word we are not to choose evil at all. People say God has used evil/flawed people for His plan. Though this may be true, whenever God has needed someone evil or so flawed, HE chose them. He never placed that burden on His people. And when Israel DID choose evil, they were judged and punished for it. Broad is the way to destruction, even within the church. This is a separating of the wheat from the chaff that will disclose God’s remnant. The Bible tells what we are to choose and how we are to choose from pastors to rulers. My husband and I voted for Tom Hoefling. We knew he probably wouldn’t win because so many Christians were gung ho for Trump, but after we prayed, and prayed, and prayed, God led us to this man. He may not have won, but we were able to vote according to God’s Word and have a clear heart/conscience. Because of his obedience, Tom allowed some Christians to show how much we are truly living for God’s will and seeking HIS truth. God always has a ram in the bush – He always gives His people a way out because He is faithful to His Word. He can’t go back on His Word/Himself, for a house divided into itself can NOT stand. If the Church has been obedient, God could have risen up an unknown man of God who is truly a man of God, the same way He raised up scrawny, unpopular David. But the Church got caught up in satan’s deception and became more political instead of becoming more righteous. God will continue to let these deceptions continue until He has widdled the Church down to His faithful remnant. As the Bible says, fathers, mothers, sons, daughters will be turning on each other, because people will be so blinded by the deception, not letting the Spirit help them discern or they will simply be disobedient, OR others will refuse to admit wrong and turn back to God because of pride. Thank you for being bold for God in the right way. It’s not enough to stand up for God if we don’t do it RIGHTEOUSLY. Nothing about Trump’s fruit relayes to my Spirit that he is born again. Soooooo many things he should have said/done to make things right. We are the light of the world, the salt of the earth – if our actions as a Church lead non-believers to question us and our belief, then what good have we done???

    • ajc says:

      Trump is only for Trump. He has cheated on 3 wives. He cheats people by refusing to pay them. He has not paid taxes yet he wants to serve the country. Why did he not serve his wives by not cheating on them? I am almost past caring but the “Church” as you refer to, has very little to do with real Christianity. Need to judge them by their fruit. They are sheep being lead astray by mega churches that are little more than big businesses with wolves at the helm. Wolves in expensive suits and big houses and expensive cars. Trump is their man with their money values. I do believe some of the deceivers are actually deceived themselves. ajc

    • ajc says:

      Truthfully, I think you wasted your vote. The guy you voted for didn’t have a chance. Hillary would have been a better vote than Trump.

  11. jen says:

    3,000 American citizens are killed legally daily in their mother’s womb. To suggest the democratic party is for Christianity and what it stands for is ignorant.
    Yes, we all know Trump isn’t a perfect man, but have you forgotten who Christ chose as His disciples? ONE even sold Him out to be tortured, heated and killed for 40 shillings, but he was STILL chosen as a disciple. Certainly Christ knew his character, right?
    What about King David? Christ’s bloodline. He made Trump look like an angel. Would Christ appreciate you calling King David an unworthy scum sucking pig? Because if you lived in his era, I’m sure you would’ve had plenty to say.

    • ajc says:

      King David was a man after God’s heart – he repented. He gave God the honor. He lost 4 sons because of sin.

    • ajc says:

      Christ never said a particular party was Christian. Republicans aren’t Christians and Democrats aren’t Christians. It is strictly politics. There are a lot of ways to kill American citizens. Bad needless wars, where the poor and middle class end up. No medical insurance for necessary treatment especially if it is pre existing. Christians are people who know and believe Christ. Period. Abortion is bad but so is adultery and divorce. It is the heart that counts and by his own words, Trump is a bad human being.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Dear Jen, the difference between Trump and the anointed King David is simply abysmal. King David loved Lord more than any else, King David was a typo of our Messiah Yeshua… King David was a prophet also. Certainly, King David sinned only once with the woman of another man. Comparing this man with the sweet singer of Israel is simply absurd for a Christian who does read the Bible. Contrary, this man has more similitude with the beast. How you ever think about it? He is trying to deceive the church, he honor richness more than anything else, and he has not love for woman. But more importantly, he loves Gog, Magog, which is Russia a country that has prohibited the evangelism. According to the Holy Word, this is also the nation that will attack Israel again. Dear Jen, U.S. is in big trouble and certainly G-d will teach us that in no man besides Lord Yeshua there is salvation. That tale about abortion and homosexuality is coming from Rome. Do you remember the Holy Inquisition? Now you can imagine how easy will be for the beast deceive humans to the end times. Although, I really pray it is not the time yet since the church is not prepare. We only think in prosperity, in legalism (we want to ban abortion and homosexuality to hide our own secrets sins ignoring that they are sinners and are not coming to repentance because we have not preached them). I really pray G-d has mercy on the American people.

  13. You would find support for your points, confirmation if you will, in the book, “If My People…The SAVING of America” on the website, or on the Bless God America Facebook page.

    If GOD has an open timeline for returning the church to HIS ways, then this is a delay we needed to get that done. It will not last long. Only the Church can be a blessing to GOD. Only those of faith can please HIM. If HE is not pleased, it is the people of faith who are the reason

  14. ajc says:

    Chris I don’t know where to comment so I am commenting here. You sound pretty innocent. Have you ever seen Jan Crouch tell the little widder women (widow) to send in their money while she and her husband had so much money in the bank and didn’t even have to pay taxes on it. She and Paul weren’t even living together. Cause of the homosexual thing???? I don’t know but they were extremely dishonest. How can you mistake what is in the churches now as true believers? And the wolves that run them. All you have to do is judge them by the word and their actions and their fruit. They took all that little widder woman money and bought mansions, fancy cars and face jobs. ajc

  15. Anonymous says:

    All I can say is that evangelicals have lost all credibility and moral authority. The hipprocricy and how they deluded themselves into thinking that Trump was God’s candudate is perturbing beyong belief. I have personally seen more fruits in the Jehova’s witnesses than in a great majority of evangelicals. By the way, Jehova’s witnessess dont generally vote and I can see why they are not encouraged to engage in the political process. America has lost it’s way. SAD BUT TRUE.

    • silentwitness says:

      For what its worth: I have a close family member who was white house secret service back in the day. This person knows more than all of us commenting here combined. The right person won.

      • ajc says:

        silent witness I have heard that fable over and over Someone always has a family member who worked in the white house and knows all these secrets Malarkey More innuendos and garbage ajc

      • silenetwitness says:

        Surely you are not calling me a liar are you? Not lying. I have been to the White House several times myself, and not just the areas allowed for public viewing, because my brother was secret service. But believe what you want if it makes you feel better.

    • ajc says:

      you are right anon ajc

      • ajc says:

        silent witness I didn’t mean to sound hateful but I have just heard so many people say that same thing implying that they know things we don’t know and that is why the person they like is better. We don’t know how long your family member was a secret service person or his political persuasion which of course would color things he saw. Just guessing he was a republican. BUT we do know a lot about Trump and the things we know and have heard him say proves to me he is not a good person and definitely not good presidential material. He appeals to the KKK. He’s an adulterer. He treats women as second class. His mouth is filthy and according to the bible that comes from his heart. He rates women by their bust size and looks and whether he wants to molest them. All about sex with him. I rate him the same as filthy men’s magazines, strip clubs and bikini car washes. He wants to make America great but doesn’t want to pay taxes. He hob nobs with Putin. He is foul ajc Your remark about your family member knowing things seems little more than innuendos

    • ajc says:

      I’m with you Anonymous ajc

    • ajc says:

      so true anony

  16. Nancy says:

    Hi Christopher, my husband and I voted for Mr. Trump because it appears that Mr. Trump is pro-America. I wasn’t voting for a “pastor” of a country; and both my husband and I realize that we all must do our part to reiterate who and what we are as Americans.

    While I sorely disagree with you about Mr. Trump, I’m sure you care about God’s people and are concerned about the climate in our society. God is still in control no matter what! For me, it’s just nice to have a leader in office that wants to do his part in pointing the citizens back to America’s founding roots. I was born and raised in America; For me, it’s about identity, meaning and purpose. May God help us all as we seek Him through scripture and pray for President Elect, Donald J.Trump!

    • ajc says:

      So pro American – he didn’t pay his taxes. So pro America – he molests and degrades America’s women. So pro America – he doesn’t pay his American employees. So pro American he has all his products made in foreign countries. So pro American – he wants to jail his opponents just like China, North Korea and Russia (Putin). So pro America – he hob nobs with Putin. Where are you getting this Pro America stuff? Your mind needs help. Whose lies have taken you in? Your pastor? Fox news? Your conclusion does not match up with reality. Write it down on paper and you should be able to figure it out.

  17. protoprotestant says:

    Evangelicalism set out to change the world and instead it is they who ended up changed. It started in the 1950s supporting McCarthyism etc., and moved to supporting Nixon and ultimately found its messiah in Reagan, the Hollywood actor divorcée. When that didn’t work they turned increasingly to Dominionist theology, influenced by men like Kuyper, Schaefer, Rushdoony and others. Now it’s brought the Church to the point that in its apostasy it celebrates and rabidly supports a sexual deviant and criminal.

  18. ajc says:

    Silent Witness I didn’t mean to be rude to you. I too have been to the white house. I just meant that your relative might have been a republican and in all fairness, this would color his take on things. And in fairness to me, I just can’t imagine what blindness would cause a person to vote for Trump. I believe it is a delusion. Maybe God has a purpose for this mad man and his brainless wife to occupy the white house. I just want God to look after my family and protect us.

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